Last month i have painted a sign on the rear glass of a friend's car with 1-shot and today almost all the paint is gone. I want to redo it but can you help me to know what must i do to make it more durable than one month. Maybe 1-shot is not good for painting on glass, but here i still don't have found paint for glass. Thanks a lot for your help. Posted by Bill Diaz (Member # 2549) on :
I don't know of any paints that are going to stay on the back of a car window, no matter how well you clean it. At least for any extended period of time. Paint doesn't bite into glass. Scraping snow and ice and not to mention those little heat lines in the glass are going to spell death to a lettering job. In 1 month's time 1 Shot would not have cured out yet. A car window on a slant is going take the rath of pressure washing and mother nature.
Consider painting somewhere else on the car.
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Besides Bill being correct on a number of the issues, you'll have to remember that automotive glass is way different then window glass.
I am a vinyl hater in most cases other then using it on automotive glass. If paint is what is needed, first lay down vinyl on the glass then use paint over it and cut up to it using an X-acto, we do it all the time.
Posted by Glen Perye Jr (Member # 159) on :
Ray Smith "el varga" a striper has painted on glass on his 56 pontiac wagon and the biggest thing he has told people is using a pro body shop glass cleaner thats leaves no resiude. But again depending on the abuse that the window is going to recieve, from snow and ice scrapers. how about paint on the inside of the window or use reverse stickers on the inside. that will stop the problem of scraping and washing.
Posted by Frank Magoo (Member # 3950) on :
I learned from an old signwriter years ago to treat all windows alike, no matter, use same prep steps each and everytime and the paint will have a better chance of stickn' long term. Take a one-sided razor and using single strokes, clean window, then with a bon-ami bar, wash window and follow up w/windex. Then letter w/one-shot and let dry good and polish w/automotive polish, it will now withstand most elements out there, save physically disturbing it.
Posted by mark zilliox (Member # 3873) on :
hi ! painting on glass, with enamels, is uncertain @ best. There are times,when i have had to paint a design/art for a glass one-time job. I used white enamel receptive vinyl, lightly scuffed & sealed with a clear brushed on topcoat,as a "canvas". Simply cut the shape of the "art" or what have you out & apply to the glass. Seems to work, natyrally it's not as chilly as in the Alps like you huh ?
Posted by Rovelle W. Gratz (Member # 4404) on :
Glen, I ran accross Ray in Auburn, Indiana this summer. The lettering and graphics on the windows and the rest of his Pontiac Wagon were all in great condition. He did say that its about time to restore the car again, but it looked great to me.
It has a lot to do with how the windows are prepped. I have seen store windows that failed, probably due to incorrect prep procedures.
Posted by roger bailey (Member # 556) on :
Window cleaners will leave residues of amonia,silicone, and other chemicals, more as competition gets high tek for the manufacturers of these products. If you don't want to paint or apply vinyl over these contaminants then try Rapid Prep or Rapid Tac application fluids, they are designed to clean and leave only COMPATIBLE residues.
And "cheap paper towels" from the grocery store,not the lint free/static free or the super absorbant types that are enhanced with chemicals. Think about this, the manufacturers of the cheap ones are in a low low price market, they can't be competitive if they spend money on the chemical saturation procedures, so, you get good clean paper only ! Leaving a clean substrate with no chemical residues !
Roger
Roger
Posted by Glen Perye Jr (Member # 159) on :
upload didn't work so nothing here
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