The local distributor is not familiar with outdoor uses. He recommends Taylor 600. I know 3M makes something but is that overkill or is it necessary.
Sorry for all the questions this week. Seems lots of things are popping up we aren't familiar with!
Thanks in advance.
Posted by dave parr (Member # 3868) on :
This is probably going to depend a great deal on the application. How much PVC to acrylic, (what size, what weight, what thickness,) and what are the colors being used? PVC expands a great deal in the sun, especially with a dark color. Expansion differences of two materials such as these may require a more flexible adhesive.
Perhaps a bit more specific information would help Amy.
Posted by Amy Brown (Member # 1963) on :
I want to make router cut letters with Chemetal faces. The Chemetal is normally laminated to acrylic or PVC. I am not trying to laminate PVC to acrylic. There is a lot of this used outdoors around here and I am wondering what type of contact adhesive is necessary for the outdoor application. I'm pretty sure normal contact adhesive like countertops use would be fine for indoor use.
Hope that makes more sense! Posted by Rick Chavez (Member # 2146) on :
Most-if not all Chemetal Laminates are indoor use only. Especially the phenolis backed, but I believe all of them are indoor. I would contact Chemetal-I have used it on acrylic, but usually only use it on MDO or MDF for exhibit cabinets and panels for indoor interpretive panels for museums and store fixtures.
Posted by Rick Chavez (Member # 2146) on :
Here is Chemetals specs....it says indoor only for all laminates, there are directions for adhesives but not the application you need. Chemetal Specs Posted by Amy Brown (Member # 1963) on :
Chemetal laminates that don't have the wood back are for outdoor use. That's straight from Chemetal. I just can't get a clear answer on the adhesive. I need to call Jean & Roy Shimp. He told me before what he uses by 3M but I don't remember. I just don't have a need for a huge thing of adhesive that will go bad before it gets used and I was hoping to find something else.
Thanks guys.
Posted by Rick Chavez (Member # 2146) on :
They should update thier website then....there are adhesive suggestions on thier site. on the link I supplied.
Posted by Amy Brown (Member # 1963) on :
Rick, hope I didn't come off ****y. I didn't mean to. I'm doing about 48 things at once today! I do appreciate your input!
EDIT: That must be an automtic filter. I typed hissy with a "P" rather than "H" and it has asterisk?????
[ April 25, 2004, 03:16 PM: Message edited by: Amy Brown ]
Posted by Rick Chavez (Member # 2146) on :
Oh no I didn't take it that way at all Amy...I hope I didn't come off wrong either.... I have 4 boys yelling for lunch so I made it shoert and sweet
[ April 25, 2004, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: Rick Chavez ]
Posted by Jack Leyden (Member # 2437) on :
Hi Amy -
I've had good results using silicone. (And I've had disastrous results using contact adhesive for exterior applications.)
The trick I found is to cut your metal laminate separate from your base substrate. When you assemble the metal to the plastic, lay a thick enough bead of silicone to "flex" with the inevitable thermal expansion differences.
Good luck!
BTW - you shouldn't be working on a Sunday. Go home.
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